Answers to Cemetery Questions

Following are answers to written questions from guests at the Carpenter’s Run Pioneer Cemetery tour.  Thank you for your interest in Blue Ash history.

Is the Plainfield School a protected historic building?  To the best of our knowledge, there are no buildings in Blue Ash on that list.

There was a question about the crytp, which is the final resting place for Louis Marie Guesnard.  The following is from a list of those buried in the Carpenter’s Run Pioneer Cemetery.  It was revised on 12/17/1993.

Name: Louis Marie Guesnard

Grave Location—Map Code:  W5B

Birth Date:

Date of Death:  March 28, 1836

Age: 58 years

Footstone:*

Epitaph or other information on headstone:* “A native of Lano La Rochelle, in France”

Other comments:  Per Art Glos, this used to be an above ground burial vault which has since collapsed.

Source: Card, List, Genealogy, Field, Art Glos

From History of Blue Ash 1791-1991, Ohio by Mary Lou Rose:

“She (Marie Dickore) states in a January 1953 article on Carpenter’s Run Baptist Church in the Bulletin of the Historical and Philosophical Society of Ohio that Louis Marie Guesnard  of LaRochelle, France, buried in the cemetery was probably a refugee who had fought under Napoleon….”

 

We have a complete list of those buried in the Carpenter’s Run Pioneer Cemetery and would like to make it available to anyone who is interested.  The reading runs for 65 pages and can be sent as an attachment.  We are not printing copies for distribution.  If you wish to have a copy, send a request to Marlene Morris at fgmo@fuse.net and mark in the subject line Cemetery Reading.  The burial locations are shown as W for the west side of Plainfield Road and E for the east side.  Inscriptions from markers are included in the reading.

Did any of the founding fathers serve in the military under General Symmes who owned all of the land that is now Blue Ash?

Symmes  was never a general nor was he ever in the “regular” military. He was a colonel in the New Jersey militia at one point during the Revolutionary War.  After the war he became a judge and represented New Jersey at one of the Continental Congresses (I don`t remember which one, but it wasn’t when they signed the Declaration of Independence). From my understanding he never technically owned any of the land he sold, it was more of a sell-by-commission type of deal, and he got into trouble by selling more property than he was originally commissioned to sell. The land also had not been properly surveyed which led to many property boundary disputes and lawsuits. He died nearly destitute. I believe Arthur St.Clair  was the head of the military in this area at that time.  Answered by Tom Bell

Where did the Indians go after the treaty of Greeneville allowed the Ferris and other families to settle here again?

The Indians moved west from Ohio.   

Quotes from A History of Ohio by Eugene H.  Roseboom and Francis P. Weisenburger:

“…the native American Indian was rapidly disappearing from Ohio’s borders.  By treaties made at Fort Greene Ville in 1795, Fort Industry in 1805, Detroit in 1807, and at the Rapids of the Maumee in 1817, the tribes were practically stripped of land except for small reservations.   In 1831, it is estimated that there were still two thousand Indians in the state [Ohio], and travelers in the northwestern section occasionally noted Indians wrapped in pieces of blankets and wearing leather moccasins, or a squaw  ‘dressed in loose blue cloth coat, scarlet pantaloons, black beaver hat and feathers, and face painted bright red.’  Even the reservations, however, soon felt the impact of advancing settlement.  The Delawares ceded the remainder of their lands to the south of the Wyandot reservations in 1829, and the Senecas on the Sandusky River parted with the last of their territory in 1832.  Eleven years later, the relinquishing of the Wyandot reservations at Upper Sandusky marked the end of organized tribal life in Ohio.”

What kind of things did the women do individually and collectively in those early days in addition to having and raising babies and cooking and laundry?

Life was indeed tough on the frontier!  But remember that these families came from organized communities on the East Coast and were used to having a social life.  It should also be noted that Cincinnati moved rapidly from frontier town to the “handsomest” city in the state. The population in 1815 was 6,000; and it grew to 16,000 in 1826 and 25,000 in 1830.  It was the seventh largest city in the United States.  (Cincinnati the Queen City by Daniel Hurley)  After the Indian Wars, pioneers left the safety of the river banks and spread throughout the state.  Work and socializing often went hand in hand. 

From A History of Ohio:

“The family was, indeed, the most important unit of social organization….

“In the rural districts, when new land was to be cleared, logrolling became something of a fraternal sport in which the whole neighborhood would engage.  As the community became more settled, huskings, threshings, and house raisings became the occasion for informal parties, the men engaging in the principal work at hand, while the women utilized the time in quilting, sewing, or spinning.  To give zest to the work, captains would be chosen among the men, teams then being selected to compete in finishing the task in rapid time.  The job completed, supper would be served, followed by dancing, unless the people were especially pious—in which case games, with forfeits paid in kisses, might serve as a substitute. 

“Hunting, fishing, swimming, and other forms of recreation, readily available in rural Ohio, we may rest assured were not neglected. 

“The churches offered numerous opportunities for social contact, in both rural and urban districts.  Camp meetings lasted several days, with thousands of persons sometimes in attendance.  In larger towns, some attended church services three times on Sunday, and the preacher gave sermons in private homes on other evenings.”

From The Midwest in American History by Dan Elbert Clark:

Social Life on the Frontier

“Frontier conditions imposed isolation and loneliness upon [farm families], but they welcomed the arrival of new settlers, both because of increased economic advantages and because of greater prospect of companionship.  Although for the greater part, the lives of the pioneers were spent in perpetual toil, they seized with great avidity upon every occasion to enjoy the society of their fellow settlers. 

“From miles around the settlers came to help a newcomer build his log cabin.  The women folk prepared a bountiful repast, visiting all the while to make up for the long periods of solitude.  Similar opportunities came at log-rolling time.  After a settler had felled the trees to make a clearing, the neighbors gathered to assist him in rolling the heavy logs into piles.  Friendly rivalry occurred among the men to prove their strength or among groups to see which could make the largest heap of logs in a given time….In addition to preparing hearty meals for the men folks, the women were apt to parallel the activities in the fields with a quilting bee or a sewing bee, thus making play of work and displaying their skill with a needle.

“Later, when small towns appeared, shooting matches, horseracing, and other sports offered welcome diversion.  Court days in the county seat towns were sure to attract a large gathering of settlers from the surrounding country.  Some of those in attendance were interested in the cases being tried, but more of them came merely for the sake of visiting or engaging in the various contests of skill or strength that were always afoot.

“Weddings, of course, were occasions of great festivity on the frontier….Feasting, sometimes in the homes of the parents of both the bride and groom, was confidently expected.  At night the strains of the fiddle were heard, as hour after hour, the young people danced the square dance or the Virginia reel.  Later, when the newly married couple had established themselves in a home of their own, a ‘house warming’ occasioned another social gathering.

“Thus, the social life of frontier people in the early years was largely a by-product of their need for assistance in performing many of the tasks necessary for their existence.  Social life for its own sake came later when the country had become more thickly settled, and the most arduous labors of pioneering had been completed.” 

Where and when was the first dry goods or general store in the area?

From Tom Bell:  I don’t know about the dry goods store, but I would bet it was either in Reading or Montgomery.  Mother told me they would shop for clothes and such in Reading when she was little .

We’ll add further information if it becomes available.

Is there a legend about leaving a silver coin on a headstone when you leave a cemetery so the spirits of the dead won’t follow you home?

We suggest you visit the following website—and then you select the answer that you think is best!

http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_are_pennies_put_on_a_grave

Which tree on the property of Blue Ash Presbyterian Church is a blue ash? Are there any others in the area? 

Kathy Swensen sent us this note:  The trees out in front of the municipal building by our sign are blue ash trees – in the nature park at the rec center we only have 2 mature trees left – lost the rest over the years – we do have lots of smaller ones planted throughout the park and around the city. I know the golf course has quite a few.

This is an opposite-leaved plant with square twigs.  Leaves are eight to 12 inches long with seven to 11 leaflets that are toothed.  (A Field Guide to Trees and Shrubs by George A. Petrides)

From Peggy Burwinkel with Blue Ash Presbyterian Church:  I talked to Harry Barnaclo who was grounds keeper before me. He said that Mary Malone, long time BAPC member, donated a Blue Ash tree that is planted on the edge of where our property connects to Nature Park. He said it should be around 10-15 feet. We have quite a bit of honeysuckle etc in that area….We did have to remove several ash tree because of the ash borer but I do not know if they were Blue Ash trees.

We will post any further information that we receive.  Many thanks to Kathy Swensen, Peggy Burwinkel, and Harry Barnaclo  for helping us with this question.

 

 

 

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